From Episode 2: "Make Your Protagonist Their Own Worst Enemy with Kat Boyd" JIM: I just finished rewatching Normal People on Hulu, which is this beautiful little — it’s a half-hour drama, which is kind of interesting in itself — but it’s a beautiful little story about two young people in Ireland, it follows them across just a few years of their relationship, how they affect each other, how they change each other’s lives, this little love story. SAM: And you’re not watching ‘c

From Episode 1: "Be Kind to Your Ideas (a.k.a. Let 'Em Suck for a Minute) with Erin Kron" SAM: I want to talk about the difference between talent and craft. This goes back to when I would wake up in the morning in Saint Paul, Minnesota, and it’d be twenty below and I’d get in my car and I’d drive to your house and I’d have the best idea ever that we were going to write. JIM: I’m having PTSD, and I don’t know if it’s the winter or you having an idea. SAM: I know. And I’d be li